OK, my thoughts on the matter. (After reading the following, I want to say that I'm not nearly as vehement about this as it sounds)
First, if it's your house, you get to make the rules. If you want your seat down, fine. If you want your lid down fine. I whole-heartedly agree with this.
However, I feel like the idea that a seat should be put down because it's "proper" is simply sexist. It is expected that guys should raise the seat before peeing, and lower it after, so that the ladies don't have to even think about it. Why should men have to pay attention to the seat but women not have to? Besides, experience shows, though, that if the seat is down, some guys will simply pee without raising the seat (and that really ticks me off). If everybody made sure the seat was up then it would stay relatively clean. Besides, at our location, a great majority (15 to 3) are men, and so the toilet in question will be used primarily in the seat-up position anyway, so why not just leave it there when it's not needed in the down position?
There are other issues, of course. Pets may necessitate a closed lid. Sanitation suggests a closed lid before flushing to prevent fecal aerosol from coating the bathroom. (Public toidies don't have lids, so that point is moot.) At our house, the toilets are not really level, and the seat will fall if the floor shakes, so I always lower it to prevent damage to the seat or bowl.
Still, I'm open to explanations as to why I should lower the seat in general.
1) It isn't only the guys who don't lift the seat and leave a wet mess on the seat (either that or we have some guys using the women's room here). YUCK! 2) When one is in a hurry (which is more frequent for the sit-down usage than the potentially standing usage), speed is important and down is good. 3) If anyone has physical issues, down may be easier to deal with. I would say that in handicapped stalls the seat should be left in the down position because I imagine that if one is already dealing with a wheelchair or crutches re-adjusting the seat may be hard. 4) If you flush with your foot, seat down makes it easier to do on certain facilities. 5) Less announcement of your, um, intentions of usage?
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Date: 2004-02-25 07:53 pm (UTC)OK, my thoughts on the matter. (After reading the following, I want to say that I'm not nearly as vehement about this as it sounds)
First, if it's your house, you get to make the rules. If you want your seat down, fine. If you want your lid down fine. I whole-heartedly agree with this.
However, I feel like the idea that a seat should be put down because it's "proper" is simply sexist. It is expected that guys should raise the seat before peeing, and lower it after, so that the ladies don't have to even think about it. Why should men have to pay attention to the seat but women not have to? Besides, experience shows, though, that if the seat is down, some guys will simply pee without raising the seat (and that really ticks me off). If everybody made sure the seat was up then it would stay relatively clean. Besides, at our location, a great majority (15 to 3) are men, and so the toilet in question will be used primarily in the seat-up position anyway, so why not just leave it there when it's not needed in the down position?
There are other issues, of course. Pets may necessitate a closed lid. Sanitation suggests a closed lid before flushing to prevent fecal aerosol from coating the bathroom. (Public toidies don't have lids, so that point is moot.) At our house, the toilets are not really level, and the seat will fall if the floor shakes, so I always lower it to prevent damage to the seat or bowl.
Still, I'm open to explanations as to why I should lower the seat in general.
Anyone?
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Date: 2004-02-25 08:50 pm (UTC)2) When one is in a hurry (which is more frequent for the sit-down usage than the potentially standing usage), speed is important and down is good.
3) If anyone has physical issues, down may be easier to deal with. I would say that in handicapped stalls the seat should be left in the down position because I imagine that if one is already dealing with a wheelchair or crutches re-adjusting the seat may be hard.
4) If you flush with your foot, seat down makes it easier to do on certain facilities.
5) Less announcement of your, um, intentions of usage?